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Cass Tech Hall of Fame
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March 24, 2008
The history of the acoustic jazz bass starts in the hands of hard-charging 1930s swingers like Jimmy Blanton, John Kirby, Moses Allen and Walter Page. The band bassists were followed in the 1940s by boppers Oscar Pettiford, Curly Russell, Tommy Potter and Nelson Boyd. Next were the cooler, more "cerebral" 1950s bassists Ray Brown, Charles Mingus, Percy Heath, Paul Chambers, Milt Hinton, George Morrow, Doug Watkins and Scott LaFaro. Then in the early 1960s, Ron Carter transformed the upright instrument from metronome to equal creative partner.
Ron's discography is astonishing. Some estimates put his number of recording sessions at 3,500, though Ron playfully questions that number. Ron's range is equaly impressive. He has been the rhythmic rock behind leading avant-garde artists such as Jaki Byard, Don Ellis, Eric Dolphy, Miles Davis and Wayne Shorter, and set the stage for the fusion bassists who followed. But Ron also has played on three Antonio Carlos Jobim albums, a majority of the polished CTI Records of the 1970s, and even albums by hip-hop artists.
Ron, 71, graciously made time in his busy schedule to chat with me about his formative years, his work with the Miles Davis Quintet between 1963 and 1968, and his many albums for CTI. In Part 1 today, Ron talks about growing up in Michigan, his love of classical music, and the challenges he faced during his early musical training:
JazzWax: I've read that you have appeared on 3,500 albums—many of them jazz classics. It may be easier for us to talk about the six albums you didn't record on.
Ron Carter: [Laughing] Six? I think it’s more like four. Seriously, though, I’m not so sure about 3,500 albums. Journalists like to blow that number up. It’s probably more like 2,007.
JW: Your range is amazing—from Eric Dolphy’s Out There to Astrud Gilberto’s Misty Roses.
RC: Wow, most people don’t know about that Gilberto record [Beach Samba (1967)]. That was a great date. There was a rumor that her boyfriend or husband at the time was working for the CIA, and a lot of the guys on the session were afraid that the CIA was monitoring them.
JW: What was it like growing up in Ferndale, Michigan, in the late 1940s, and why did your family move to Detroit when you were 12 years old?
RC: My father found a job as a bus driver in Detroit and the only way he could get the job was by moving to Detroit [pictured in the late 1940s]. It wasn’t a big move, though. There’s a street that separates the two cities. We were living in heart of Ferndale, two blocks from my high school. I had finished my first year of school in Ferndale and already had my entrance audition at Cass Technical High School. So I didn’t get too bent out of shape with the move.
JW: How was Cass Tech?
RC: Great. At Cass Tech, you could major in anything. You could major in music, mechanics, home economics, design or anything you wanted to. It was one of the earliest schools where you had to audition to get in. A lot of great musicians were there, and many continued in music. It was an environment that made growing essential if you wanted to stay in the school. I auditioned on the cello.
JW: Why did you pick the cello?
RC: The music teacher at Cass Tech had brought all these instruments out to the school in her car and said they were available to us to start a little orchestra and to take lessons. She said we should choose the instrument that would suit us as best as we could play it. She played the cello and I loved the sound of it. So I chose the cello.
JW: After Cass Tech, you enrolled at the Eastman School of Music. What was the most important lesson you learned there?
RC: Don’t let discouragement become your focus. At Eastman [pictured], I felt I wasn’t getting the kind of interest I should have been getting. I thought there were opportunities that should have been presented to me that weren’t because I was an African–American. Sometimes they’d put notices up on the board for auditions for major orchestras. It seemed to be common knowledge around the school that the openings were available and that auditions were taking place. But somehow no one got around to telling me to look at the bulletin board or that there was something there that I might be interested in.
JW: Were you good enough?
RC: At the time I was the best undergraduate student player in the school. I felt that given my unstated status, I should have been at least informed so I could decide whether or not I wanted to audition for different orchestras. I felt that because I wasn’t kept in that loop, it wasn’t the fair thing to do to me. I think if I had not maintained that focus, I wouldn’t have gotten out of that school in one piece.
JW: How did you change your feelings of resentment?
RC: It wasn’t resentment. I just couldn’t understand why fair wasn’t fair. I had followed all the rules. I practiced diligently. I got good grades. When the school formed the Eastman Philharmonia—a student-pro orchestra featuring the cream of the crop at the school—there were six or seven other bassists to choose from. They decided I would be first chair on bass. That certainly counted for something. I didn’t just take a chair and sit down. There was a process, and whatever that process was, it was decided that I would be first chair with the cream of the crop. I thought that would have been enough to get me in the loop. At the time, I thought everyone knew about the major opportunities but me, and I didn’t think that was OK.
JW: How did you keep this from overwhelming you?
RC: I thought I played well, and I didn’t care what they thought. I mean, of course, I cared, and it did matter. But I wasn’t going to let their view of my talent and my viability as a fulltime classical player affect me and my thoughts about what I could do on the instrument and what the instrument offered.
JW: But how did you change your thinking?
RC: I was comfortable with my view of myself, and I was making a few jazz gigs so I wasn’t actually starving. I just felt that their way of looking at me was their view, not mine. I have students who come in for lessons now, and the books they use have numbers under the notes. This is the editor’s view on the best way to play different passages. I tell my students to cross out the editor’s numbers and to find their own path through the passages. Now my students will learn to be confident in their view of the approach and their choices, not someone else's. Back then I simply told myself that the school had its view of my ability, but it was their view, not mine. So I was OK with that,.
Tomorrow, in Part 2, Ron talks about his move to New York, his recording sessions with Ernie Wilkins, Yusef Lateef and Eric Dolphy, and the impact of the 1960s on the Miles Davis Quintet.
JazzWax tracks: Ron has played with classical orchestras around the world and recorded several classical albums, including one featuring his own transcriptions and arrangements of Bach chorales and cantatas. His classical albums include Ron Carter Plays Bach here, Afro-Classic here. Brandenburg Concerto here, the Classical Jazz Quartet Play Rachmaninov here, Mouth Music here and Meets Bach here.
Today, in Part 2 of our conversation, Ron talks about his move to New York, his early recordings in 1960 with Ernie Wilkins and Yusef Lateef, the Out There session with Eric Dolphy, and the Miles Davis Quintet (1963-1968):
JazzWax: Why did you go on to study at the Manhattan School of Music?
Ron Carter: They had auditions for their masters program. I knew the school was in New York, where I wanted to be. I didn’t know much about Juilliard at the time. I thought it was kind of an upper class classical school. I knew from the Manhattan School of Music’s brochure that its format was less rigid. Continuing with my education at the school seemed to be the best choice if I was going to come to New York and try to earn a living playing jazz bass.
JW: Did you face similar hurdles at the Manhattan School of Music that you did at Eastman?
RC: The Manhattan School of Music was different, but at first, I was concerned. I had to take the school’s music theory exam because Eastman and the Manhattan School of Music used different symbols and a different language to recognize different chords and progressions. After the test, they put me in Music Theory 1, which was a sock in the head. But I said to myself, "Wait a minute—if this is the only way I can get to go to this school, maybe I need to learn another language." I didn’t care. The only thing that mattered to me was, what does it take to get this done.
JW: How was the experience?
RC: It turned out beautifully. I made some lovely people there, I made some great friends, the faculty was warm and appreciative of my talent. I played the first chair in the Manhattan Symphony Orchestra, which gave me an outside endorsement of the talent level I had achieved.
JW: You had a great love of classical music…
RC: Still do.
JW: This love dated back to your early teens?
RC: Again, I’m not sure if schools during that era thought that African-Americans could cut the classical orchestra circuit. There weren’t a lot of them playing in orchestras at the time, there weren’t many of them going into classic conservatories. My concern today is that the schools are turning out kids, both black and white, to play in orchestras but there are no jobs for them. Those guys who already have chairs aren’t retiring. They have great pension plans, vacations, health plans, and so on. Where are the kids going to go? You all can’t form your own orchestra. This is an important concern of mine.
JW: How did you come to classical music?
RC: We played it in school. In classical orchestras, classical string quartets, clarinet quintets. That’s the kind of music I played in those years. I wasn’t the only one. Many kids my age had same passion for classical. Cass Tech was a great program. A classical training gave me a bigger palette on which to work and more experienced people around me to learn the music better.
JW: One of your first jazz recordings was The Big New Band of the 60’s—Ernie Wilkins [pictured below] and his orchestra in April 1960. All the musicians on that date were giants.
RC: Oh, wow, somebody just sent me that album. I hadn't heard it before. That was a great record. I look back at that date and I’m quite surprised, given the status of all those players around me, that they decided that this person who was new to New York basically could have an impact on this recording. I can’t remember the feeling of the date or who brought me in. But looking at the personnel I remain stunned that they considered me capable enough to contribute to the music of the band.
JW: You also recorded Three Faces of Yusef Lateef in May 1960. What did you learn from Yusef?
RC: Oh yes—Hugh Lawson on piano, Herman Wright, Lex Humphries on drums and Yusef [pictured] on tenor and oboe. I had already heard these guys from afar at nightclubs in New York. Playing with Yusef made me realize just how big his sound was. I also learned how intense he was about the music. And everyone followed that level of intensity. Yusef had a way of getting everyone up to that level.
JW: Was it liberating to play on Eric Dolphy’s album Out There in August 1960?
RC: I was already playing music like that with Don Ellis and Jaki Byard. I was already familiar with the avant-garde scene. Eric’s record wasn’t my first encounter. I wasn’t stunned by it.
JW: But you came out of a classical background, where playing music requires certain rigidity. How did you make the switch to a form that was so free?
RC: Ask the creator. I have no answer to that other than it’s out of my hands, so to speak.
JW: You were with the Miles Davis Quintet steadily from April 1963 to June 1968—an incredible period of turmoil in this country. You saw America change through the music.
RC: We weren’t living in vacuum but I don’t know what impact society had on us individually. I think the guys in the group were fortunate to have been picked by a person [Miles] who was able to see individuals who could take the music where he wanted to go. I can remember when JFK got assassinated, when the Birmingham church was bombed—I remember all those things. But saying that events back then had an impact on how the music sounded would be kind of a stretch for the other four guys.
JW: What about for you?
RC: I never try use the bandstand for a political platform. I’m pretty verbal, and if you ask me a question I’m happy to tell you off the bandstand. I’m not sure I agree that you can listen to a band and interpret their motives during the fact and certainly after the fact. People can analyze all they want to, but I’m not sure I buy that concept that music is an international language. I’m not there yet. For me, I like to think I’m able to separate the politics of life from the ongoing conflict from the bandstand. By conflict, I mean we all have ways to hear a tune. We have to decide whose view is most relevant and whose view is going to take us someplace else. So did external events affect my music at that time? I like to think, broadly, no. But realistically we live in a society where we play what we feel. Broadly speaking, again, I’m sure it had an impact. But I don’t think JFK’s assassination made me play the blues any more seriously.
JazzWax tracks: Ron's first jazz recording was Stompin' at the Savoy in March 1957 for Verve Records with Phil Woods, Kenny Burrell and Grady Tate. You can find it on a CD called Jazz-Club: Bass.
His first major session was Ernie Wilkins: The Big New Band of the 60's, a strong outing recorded in March and April 1960. The Wilkins arrangements remain strong and are so skillfully written that the band sounds three times larger than it is. Given who was on the date, it's no wonder: Clark Terry, Richard Williams, Charlie Shavers on trumpets; Henderson Chambers on trombone; Earle Warren on alto sax; Zoot Sims, Seldon Powell and Yusef Lateef on tenor sax; Eddie Costa on vibes; Walter Bishop, Jr. on piano; Kenny Burrell on guitar; Ron on bass; and Charlie Persip on drums.
This recording appears on Ernie Wilkins: The Everest Years, which combines The Big New Band of the 60's with Here Comes the Swingin' Mr. Wilkins. The CD can be downloaded at iTunes or purchased here. It's one of my favorite big band albums from the period. Listen as Ron, just 23, keeps huge time for some of the best jazz players of the day.
After a record date with Charlie Persip in April (Charles Persip and the Jazz Statesmen) that included Freddie Hubbard, Art Blakey and Philly Joe Jones, Ron recorded Three Faces of Yusef Lateef in May, a powerfully spiritual album for Riverside. Next came Howard McGhee's Dusty Blue in June and Eric Dolphy's Out There in August.
Ron's 1961 album Where? for Prestige with Eric Dolphy, Mal Waldron, George Duvivier and Charlie Persip is being released by Concord Records as part of its Rudy Van Gelder remaster series on April 1. The CD will be available here.
From that date forward until his first date as a member of the Miles Davis Quintet in April 1963, Ron recorded almost monthly with virtually every jazz great of the period, including Johnny Griffin, Kenny Dorham, Milt Jackson, Wes Montgomery, Benny Golson, Gil Evans, Bobby Timmons, Bill Evans and Cannonball Adderley.
Untimely neglect of gay painter
by Charles Alexander
Originally printed 02/07/2008 (Issue 1606 - Between The Lines News)
African American artist Julie Mehretu was talking to a gathering of high school students in one of the several galleries of Detroit Institute of Art devoted to her gigantic "City Sitings" canvases. (It was during the opening week media preview.)
As I listened to her talk to the students I observed from her look and forthright manner that she might be "family", so when the students left I introduced myself, said I liked her work, and asked her how long one of her gigantic canvases might take to finish.
She said it took her and her assistants usually six months to complete a canvas. I then said I was from Between The Lines, that it would be nice to interview her. She told me to wait 'til after Thanksgiving, then asked me if I saw any of the community touches in her paintings.
When I said I hadn't, she led me to Stadia III and pointed out several tiny pink triangles. It was a pleasant and pleasing subliminal touch. There, but not too obvious. A visual "only if you ask, I'll tell," otherwise a visual nuance overlooked by the average straight museum visitor.
Moving along to other gallery spaces devoted to African American artists I found brilliantly lighted works by greats like Benny Andrews, Jacob Lawrence, Romare Bearden, Hughie Lee-Smith. Locally there were stunning pieces by Tyree Guydon, Charles McGee, Gilda Snowden, and Alvin Loving (a fellow Cass Technical High School art student).
As I took in the variety and richness of the offerings I realized that the work of someone important was missing from the collections. LeRoy Foster. There was not one picture or print by this Detroit artist, who during the late-40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s was one of the city's most well-known black artists.
Foster, who was born in 1925, studied art at Cass Technical High School, the Detroit Society of Arts and Crafts School (now the College of Creative Studies), and continued his studies in Europe at L'Academie de la Grand Chaumeire in Paris and London's Heatherly School of Art.
A fine portrait painter (with many European clients) he was most well known in Detroit for public mural commissions, including "The Life and Times of Frederick Douglass" for the Frederick Douglass Branch of the Detroit Public Library; "Kaleidoscope" for the lobby of Southwest Detroit Hospital, and "Renaissance City," at the old Cass Tech (where in 1986 the picture was vandalized by ink splattering and restored by Foster.)
In 1978, Foster was honored with a City of Detroit Proclamation, presented to him by Mayor Coleman A. Young. Michigan Chronicle columnist Susan Watson wrote of him, "In my time, I've been around a lot of bright, insightful people, but I don't recall ever being in the presence of genius before. I think I would have remembered it, had it happened.
"LeRoy Foster is genius. He is a small, compact man with taut brown skin and eyes that dance in tiny, patent-leather steps. Instead of radiating energy, he draws energy to him like a magnet. Seeing that tiny man, with the tight embarrassed smile, standing beside complex and evocative mural simply took my breath away."
Dr. Charles Wright, founder of Detroit's Museum of African-American History and a good friend of Foster, observed, "He made no compromise. He gave a Negroid appearance to a lot of his paintings ... and that disturbed some black people, but it didn't bother him. He was never free from controversy."
Foster was also gay. (I attended many of his Woodward Avenue studio parties when I was a teenager.) His work exhibits an energetic, masculine, sinewy power that displays the male physique to careful and attentive advantage. (It is perhaps, in our time, a little too obviously the work of a gay artist. Indeed, the Detroit Monitor headlined one of its columns about Foster, "Detroit's Own Michelangelo".)
Hoping to redress the absence of Foster's work in the DIA African American Galleries I spoke to several DIA personnel about him. I gathered a dozen or more press clipping from the Music and Performing Arts Section of the main branch of the Detroit Public Library.
I sent these clippings with a covering note to the DIA's curator of African American Art Valerie Mercer, later e-mailing her to see if she had received them. She never gave me the simple courtesy of a reply.
I last saw LeRoy Foster in downtown Detroit. He was paying a utility bill at the bank. He looked shockingly old, fragile, but he remembered me. (Or, so he said.) He died in 1993, age 67. During his last year of life of he saw no art, his own or others. He was blind.
Sadly, today he's all but forgotten. The DIA (and the Charles Wright African American Museum) shamefully a part of his untimely neglect.
Tracey Reese - Feminine Chic
Tracy Reese is an American Fashion designer born in Detroit, Michigan, on February 12, 1964; the daughter of Claud, a manager, and Pat, a dance teacher. Her grandmother was her first fashion icon. She was both ladylike and stylish. Reese’s mother enrolled her and her two sisters in weekend enrichment classes at the city’s museum. Her career direction first emerged when she, her mother, and two sisters would hold sewing contest; whoever finished their outfit first won, the loser bought the fabric. She joked in an interview with Essences “Although I generally won, I still spent every dime I had buying fabric”.
Reese attended Cass Technical High school, a privileged public high school of the arts in the Detroit school system. Cass Tech. had a fashion-design-department, though Reese was not focused on fashion design, she took a couple of classes. She actually felt fashion-design was ”flaky”, and wanted to be an architect or an interior designer. But Reese was encouraged by a fashion teacher to apply for a scholarship to a summer program at Parsons School of design in Ney York City. She won the slot for the scholar program, and loved the experience, school, and city. After graduation from Cass Tech. she attended Parsons full-time for fashion design.
Following her graduation, in 1984, from Parsons Reese received a wonderful job as an apprentice at a small contemporary firm for French designer Martin Sitbon in New York City. Reese was assigned to Sitbon’s Arlequin line. After two years in the industry Reese was still passionate about designing a line that reflected her own style. With funding from her father Claud, she created two collections, both favored by store buyers. The line was sold at stores such as Barney’s New York, Bergdorf Goodman, and Ann Taylor. Reese could not maintain enough revenue to meet production cost, and had to close business in 1989. She recalled in a interview with WWD “I thought I knew everything, but learned quickly that I really didn’t and knew I had to learn more about the business”.
After the close of her business Reese starting working for Perry Ellis, thanks to friend Marc Jacobs, her former schoolmate at Parsons. She enquired more financial experience and mentoring from designer Gordon Henderson Reese. In the early 1990’s Reese became head-designer for a new label called Magaschoni, owned by Magatague (Hong Kong manufacture). After sales reached $4 million in 1991, Magatague executives gave Reese her own line “Tracy Reese for Magaschoni” The line had great sales at high-end retailers such as Saks Fifth Avenue, Reese was still determined to produce her own line and business.
In 1995 Reese and mass retailer the Limited inked a deal for a line. This provided funds for her start-up line “Tracy Reese Meridian”, which launched in the Spring of 1996. With an investor on board the line became just “Tracy Reese”, followed by a more casual line targeted towards younger customers “Plenty”. By 2002 sales had reached $12million. Her collection was shown During New York Fashion week in Bryant Park, were they received rave reviews.
In 2004 the company introduced “Plenty Home” a line of bedding, curtains, and throws. Shoes and accessories were introduced in Fall of 2005.
Reese has established herself as one of the most successful African American women in the fashion industry. Her designs are feminine chic, made for the girly girl. Her signature fabrics are lush patterns from India. She knows what women want to wear.
An old-school take on jazz (Geri Allen)
Pianist Geri Allen keys her teaching to tradition
By Siddhartha Mitter
Globe Correspondent / December 7, 2007
On her most recent album, last year's "Timeless Portraits and Dreams," pianist Geri Allen applies her crystalline touch and graceful melodicism to such varied fare as Charlie Parker's bop classic "Ah-Leu-Cha," the devotional "Well Done," and the African-American anthem "Lift Every Voice and Sing." With old-school luminaries Ron Carter and Jimmy Cobb as the rhythm section, the record features guests such as vocalist Carmen Lundy and pioneering black tenor George Shirley.
The companions are prestigious and the program seemingly eclectic, but the agenda that informs the album - and with it, the current phase in Allen's career - is personal, highly focused and deeply felt. Allen's perspective on jazz is both grounded and panoramic, constantly attuned to the connections between the music's development and the unfolding of American, and especially African-American, history.
Her concern with jazz as not just music but culture makes Allen an inspired choice for the residency she undertakes this weekend at Harvard. It features three public events: a music-illustrated discussion this afternoon, followed by a concert with her trio this evening, and tomorrow night she'll perform with the Harvard Jazz Bands in an evening devoted to the work of the trailblazing female pianist Mary Lou Williams.
The academic setting is a comfortable one for the 50-year-old Allen: She is an associate professor of jazz piano and improvisation at the University of Michigan, and she has a graduate degree in ethnomusicology. As she says on the phone from her home in Montclair, N.J., the focus on education runs in her family.
"It's a natural place for me to be," Allen says. "My grandmother was a one-room schoolteacher in Tennessee, and my father worked 35 years in the Detroit public school system."
Her Motor City upbringing also embedded Allen in a distinguished jazz tradition. Her fellow alumni of the music program at Cass Technical High School include legends Carter, Donald Byrd, Kenny Burrell, and many others, including several important female jazz artists, notably Alice Coltrane.
Like these illustrious forebears, Allen eventually moved to New York, emerging in the 1980s as a vivid new voice on the piano. But that was also a complicated period for jazz. Record labels were scaling back their investment in the music or shifting their focus from straight-ahead to fusion and "smooth" styles. Yet while recording budgets dried up, some of the great, long-running bands like Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers continued to incubate new talent with irreplaceable on-the-job training.
"There was a sense of jazz being on the road all the time," Allen says. "The scene was in flux, but it was still rooted in the Art Blakeys, the Betty Carters."
Today, that picture is reversed. Jazz recordings are abundant, whether on major or independent labels, and jazz programs at music schools release hundreds of technically proficient graduates onto the scene each year. But many of the elders have passed away, and the great working-band tradition, with its attendant transmission of experience and lore, is moribund.
At risk, Allen believes, is the cultural grounding of the music and its continued ability not only to reflect American history, but to reconnect to the African-American community in a way relevant today.
"Jazz is a great art form, with a legacy attached to it that helps [us] understand who we are as a people," Allen says. "How do we access these communities of folk for whom the music is a direct reflection of their roots?"
That project resonates with Ingrid Monson, who holds the Quincy Jones chair in African-American music at Harvard. "One of the reasons we wanted to invite Geri Allen is that she places jazz in social context," Monson says. "There's always a dialogue between music and community."
Monson says her undergraduate class on jazz explores the links between jazz and often uncomfortable topics in American history, and asks questions like, "How did jazz come to symbolize freedom, individuality, self-expression?" Allen's approach, Monson says, makes her an ideal guest lecturer on these topics.
"In her musical practice, that's always been there," Monson says. "Not that every piece of music has to have a political connotation, but she has a feeling of responsibility to the larger world."
Allen says that responsibility is not a matter of ideology, but simply the way she is: "It's organic in the way that I work, in the way that I was raised as a musician."
So whether she is honoring the legacy of Williams, a major female jazz innovator who might otherwise be forgotten, or holding community events like her visit yesterday to the Roland Hayes music school in Roxbury, Geri Allen is simply giving back.
"Jazz is culture," she says. "It's a legacy art form. It continues to evolve as long as we continue to celebrate and support that legacy."
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